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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
Shipley needs to grow a pair and say what's going on.
errr, why? It's his company, his private life and I'm pretty sure that if this should stop the development of his product, he would have the balls to say so...
Don't Panic, the Beta phase is surely soon over
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Hopefully Wil gets some support in development to get this out the door, esp with most of the original codeauthors off the team.
I should point out there's not "guys" at Delicious Monster. There's me, plus two women. They're great. I wouldn't call them guys. though. 02:38 AM March 22, 2008 from twitterrific
We shall see it when it is ready, there's no use getting heated over it. Looking like a good product, Make it stable, correct, beautiful, and then fast.
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I hear it comes out next Tuesday...
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Originally Posted by SolSat
Guys, please calm down....
All I can say is that there was a new beta of DL2 today available for the closed beta test, and the App is not only awesome looking, but also already very stable.
In a short time I scanned 130 Games (from everywhere, Japan, US, Europe) from different game machines (Neo Geo, NEC, Super Famicom, etc) and it rocked solid up to now (continue testing the other 600 games left), so don't do your bad mouthing here, please.
I am pretty sure that if there isn't any new "big" issue found, the final release will be done soon, so just keep some patience please.
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SolSat
Can you really blame people when there is never any official word on what is happening? Would it really have been that difficult for the DM staff to post here saying a new private beta was released today, just so that people know that something is actually happening.
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Originally Posted by REBELinBLUE
Can you really blame people when there is never any official word on what is happening? Would it really have been that difficult for the DM staff to post here saying a new private beta was released today, just so that people know that something is actually happening.
Listen, I understand that this is frustrating, but I am sure they are busy programming (which I prefer knowing) than giving statements away on Forum (which I don't mind, prefereing them do the program).
Anyway, keep the high hopes, it is really going to be great
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Yes but that is the point, you know they are "busy programming" because you have something in your hands that proves it.
The rest of us don't even have a statement confirming that anything has actually been done for months.
As a programmer myself, taking 2 minutes out at the beginning or the end of the day every so often just to post on your forums with a progress update is hardly a difficult task, especially when you have a public beta out which you are actively distributing, so you must be writing a statement detailing the changes/what needs testing etc anyway.
I had refrained from posting, even though I have checked this forum daily for the last few months, because I understand the problems developers encounter, but I can definitely understand why people are frustrated, because of the total silence from DM.
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As it seems that everyone has quit probably because of Shipley's inability to deliver, it would be him not "they" who we think is working on it, yet he's wasting his time posting crap like this: Call Me Fishmeal. So really, why should we believe there is anything out there of this program? If he has time for his soft core porn fiction, then why doesn't he have time to give us an update?
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
As it seems that everyone has quit probably because of Shipley's inability to deliver, it would be him not "they" who we think is working on it, yet he's wasting his time posting crap like this: Call Me Fishmeal. So really, why should we believe there is anything out there of this program? If he has time for his soft core porn fiction, then why doesn't he have time to give us an update?
Not sure...but you can bet your ass that he'll be out there saying to everyone how DL2 has broken all his sales records and how he's driving a Ferrari Enzo. But deep down we all know this isn't true...but let him dream. Let him dream about kissing a woman and hear her breath. Let him dream about breaking sales records and live on a 50 foot yacht. Won't you let him DREAM, MAN!
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Originally Posted by Horsepoo!!!
Not sure...but you can bet your ass that he'll be out there saying to everyone how DL2 has broken all his sales records and how he's driving a Ferrari Enzo. But deep down we all know this isn't true...but let him dream. Let him dream about kissing a woman and hear her breath. Let him dream about breaking sales records and live on a 50 foot yacht. Won't you let him DREAM, MAN!
Gosh, what are you for a broken character?
Can't you just let him also have a private live, besides his programming?
If you have no patience, why you don't program an app like this yourself, if you consider it sooo easy?
I feel sorry for you,
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Originally Posted by SolSat
Gosh, what are you for a broken character?
Can't you just let him also have a private live, besides his programming?
If you have no patience, why you don't program an app like this yourself, if you consider it sooo easy?
I feel sorry for you,
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Calm down. You might pop a blood vessel.
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Originally Posted by Horsepoo!!!
Calm down. You might pop a blood vessel.
You definitely made my day ;-)
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How come DM hasn't posted screenshots of v2 on the web to get people excited? Even Microsoft did that with Office, including a blog to show progress (or lack of for a certain email client). I don't care about the hype of this product or a closed beta if we can't see progress. Hype=vaporware until I see proof, other than what Apple Insider posted.
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View the following page on iPhone...
Library
"Lucas built a separate iPhone application right into the goddamned template!"
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Regardless, according to the "March" timeframe given by Apple Insider, they have til midnight tomorrow to deliver it. Then again, they never specified 2008 as the year.
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I got 5 bucks that says Shipley (pretty ironic name for someone who can't ship anything) will come out and say that DL2 needs 10.5.3 and wont come out until then.
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
I got 5 bucks that says Shipley (pretty ironic name for someone who can't ship anything) will come out and say that DL2 needs 10.5.3 and wont come out until then.
even if you're right they probably wont come out and say anything. they'll leave everyone sitting in the dark.
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Who else thinks DM should just sell Delicious Library to Panic? Those guys can ship, and are very responsive to suggestions and bug reports.
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There is no denying that Delicious Library 1 was the hot app of its time. Hell, one of my PC-owning friends bought a MacBook and a handheld scanner specifically because he had thousands of books he wanted to catalog (an entire bedroom filled to bursting with books, books and more books). He later bought a second MacBook and a Mac Pro. Delicious Library was responsible for converting him to the Mac! I expect Delicious Library 2 to be equally as popular, if it ever makes it out the door.
But there can be little doubt that, when it comes to professionalism and a customer-first work ethic, Delicious Monster has failed miserably. DM's aloofness and total disregard for the customer is spectacularly bad. Every single person who bought DL1 is a customer. Every single person who plans to buy DL2 is a customer. And each passing day without some official word from DM is one gigantic middle finger in the air to those customers.
BTW, Shipley seems to have PLENTY of time to post to Twitter.
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I've got a new award for Mr Shipley
Congrats. Make sure to post it with all the others you won for this vaporware.
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
I've got a new award for Mr Shipley
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Congrats. Make sure to post it with all the others you won for this vaporware.
Forgot the lens flare
A little over 11 hours left (PST time til midnight). Makes me wonder how/why Apple gave this an award last year.
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
I've got a new award for Mr Shipley
Congrats. Make sure to post it with all the others you won for this vaporware.
ah, the prestigious failure to launch award. the most coveted award of all. i hear, though, that there's also a shot at the "failure to communicate because im too busy twittering" award.
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It seems the trolls are out in full force here...
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Theres a difference between a troll and a dissatisfied and annoyed customer.
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
Theres a difference between a troll and a dissatisfied and annoyed customer.
How much have you paid for DL2?
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Originally Posted by superadam
How much have you paid for DL2?
Touché
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MANY folks purchased DL1 after December 20 on the promise that they would get a free upgrade to DL2. Delicious Monster convinced those folks to give DM money in advance in exchange for an IOU. Those folks have already paid for DL2.
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Originally Posted by Mark Booth
MANY folks purchased DL1 after December 20 on the promise that they would get a free upgrade to DL2. Delicious Monster convinced those folks to give DM money in advance in exchange for an IOU. Those folks have already paid for DL2.
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@Mark
You paid for DL1, and you got it, so where is you GDF Problem?
That you will get DL2 for free, you should consider this as bonus, not as "due".
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Hmm. April is here. Looks like March of 2009 now for launch?
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Someone will have to take down Twitter if were ever going to see this.
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
Someone will have to take down Twitter if were ever going to see this.
Hum..... Sorry to tell you, but get over it or get a life.
Software engineering takes time, that's all.
Nothing else to do that to spam this forum with whining?
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Originally Posted by SolSat
Hum..... Sorry to tell you, but get over it or get a life.
Software engineering takes time, that's all.
Nothing else to do that to spam this forum with whining?
Cheers,
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I see you have a real life, too. one that certainly allows you to come and attack others yet stay seated on your high horse. before you tell others to get a life, maybe you should reconsider your own activity.
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Originally Posted by anyrandomthing
I see you have a real life, too. one that certainly allows you to come and attack others yet stay seated on your high horse. before you tell others to get a life, maybe you should reconsider your own activity.
Dear anyrandomthing,
it wasn't meant to hurt your already wounded feelings, trust me.
I just enjoy answering between my flight connections, don't worry for my life, it's beautiful, trust me.
I'll take my horse to the water now, sounds easier than answering people who try to poo higher than their arse is anatomically fixed:
"ah, the prestigious failure to launch award. the most coveted award of all. i hear, though, that there's also a shot at the "failure to communicate because im too busy twittering" award."
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Originally Posted by SolSat
it wasn't meant to hurt your already wounded feelings, trust me.
I just enjoy answering between my flight connections, don't worry for my life, it's beautiful, trust me.
a connecting flight to the bunny ranch, no doubt.
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Originally Posted by anyrandomthing
a connecting flight to the bunny ranch, no doubt.
You made me almost smile.
If you can find sarcasm between the lines, keep it, it's free.
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Originally Posted by SolSat
You made me almost smile.
If you can find sarcasm between the lines, keep it, it's free.
FREE SARCASM!!? Reported for spam.
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Originally Posted by Horsepoo!!!
FREE SARCASM!!? Reported for spam.
The whole thread?
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Originally Posted by SolSat
The whole thread?
Cheers,
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official request to change thread title to "it certainly can be long now."
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does anyone know when they updated the DM site to show the 2.0 free upgrade deal. because if it was recent that can only be good right.
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Originally Posted by rodman109110
does anyone know when they updated the DM site to show the 2.0 free upgrade deal. because if it was recent that can only be good right.
Seems it was yesterday, they also added 2 new members (Terry & Rachel Monster)
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I wonder what kind of "support" those girls provide? Is it the kind that Wil can fantasize about on his twitter?
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Originally Posted by MikeShayne
I wonder what kind of "support" those girls provide? Is it the kind that Wil can fantasize about on his twitter?
he pays them to whisper "you are the best software developer, ever!" in his ear all day.
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Just thinking outloud here.
What happens when the next round of Apple Design awards comes up and DL2 still isn't released? How does that work?
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Originally Posted by anyrandomthing
he pays them to whisper "you are the best software developer, ever!" in his ear all day.
You haven't seen that Apple has started the Apple Design Award Callback program? For any program that hasn't shipped since they received the award, Apple instantly calls back the award granted.
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Ah, the pleasures of forum monitoring. At least when you're angrily taking jabs at Wil for doing ANYTHING other than programming, and Rachel and I for... god forbid... being women, try to make it amusing. Dl2 is shipping soon--I know you've all heard it before but I'm saying it again anyhow. We're in the final stages of the beta. Wil is closing numerous bugs a day (despite the time-consuming twitterings), we're putting the release notes together, docs are written and just need to be updated for some last minute changes--it's all coming together! I appreciate everyone's patience and understanding and trust me, we want this out as badly as you do.
@MikeShayne: You requested your money back for DL1 along with the copy of the award you so graciously bestowed on us and I told you I'd be happy to refund it. You have not written back with the information I need to complete this process.
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So? Any news? this looks kind of silent now...
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Its Monday what am I going to do today. 1) Get on the mac forums and flame on Wil for not giving his software that he spent the last couple of years developing to me for free.
2) Complain some more that I'm not as bright as Wil to design my own software.
Now I hope Wil never releases the software and does something else instead of catering to everyones harsh remarks of him. I don't know him and yes I don't program for mac I do program small apps for windows for my job used in house so I do have an idea on what goes into the process. You know why he wins awards not because he comes out with a new revision every year of the same thing. Because he truly does innovate in such a stale industry. I would rather have delicious library come out and "Just Work" as apple fan boys like to call it as well as myself. Then pull a Micros*ft and have to wait for patches to come out. I just bought his program a couple of months ago and yes I'm supposed to get a free copy but if its as good as it looks I will be buying more and giving them away to friends as appreciation to a true artisan of his craft. So the next time your at your job I hope someone doesn't criticize you for how slow our work is. Just food for thought take it how ever you want.
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